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Planting Mars [Ep. 009] – You Find What You Look For

In this episode I lay out the verse that I have been challenged with for this year.

“You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all of your heart.” Jeremiah 29:13

Will you join me in seeking the Lord in 2017. I have a feeling that we will come to know Him like we never have before.

At the end of the episode I offer an opportunity to join me in seeking the Lord together this year through an intense discussion group. I am calling it Preparation For Launch. Together, we will read through the entire Bible this year. We will watch some videos together that give us a better understanding of the Scripture. We will have a closed discussion group on facebook to share what the Lord is doing through this year.

If you would like to be a part of Preparation For Launch you can do one of three things. 1.) Comment below, 2.) comment on the Same Shirt Facebook site or 3.) email me at

I will leave it open until next Friday, January 13. Then we will get started.

Here are links to the resources we will be using.

Year of biblical Literacy

The Bible Project


Collective Overflow Founder — Lisa Taylor [Ep. 008]

Lisa Taylor is the founder and Executive Director of Collective Overflow, a ministry that ministers to ministers. The focus of Collective Overflow is supporting church planters in the western part of the United States.

In this interview you will hear Lisa share her experience with church planting and how the Lord really gave her a heart of ministering to church planters. In the interview we talk about many different topics from ministry, to church planting, to walking through depression, to family.

This is a great conversation and I am sure you will be able to hear her love for the Lord, her ministry, and her family. I hope you enjoy this episode of Planting Mars.

Selected Links From The Episode:

Connect With Lisa Taylor:

Instagram:     Lisa Taylor            Collective Overflow

Facebook:     Collective Overflow

On the Web:     Collective Overflow

Other Items Mentioned:

Lisa’s Favorite Books:

To Kill a Mocking Bird  –  Harper Lee

The Chronicles of Narnia  –  C.S.Lewis

Fervent  –  Priscilla Shirer

Best Purchase:

Keurig 2.0

Thank you for listening! Have a great day!

Is The Church Ready for Robots?

Over the next five years, as we see more automated machines take human jobs are we prepared for that as the church? You may think it’s a silly question at this point in 2016. But I think it’s a very important question that we need to ask now. We need to be asking and answering these tough  questions today so that we can be prepared for the arrival of these new technologies.

If you do not think it is a possibility for new robotics technologies to take more and more human jobs then check out the following video from Boston Dynamics, a robotics company that is now owned by Google. The machines they have created are amazing to say the least. The following video shows just one of their creations.

Now are you thinking, “WOW I didn’t realize there was a machine that was so human like?” A time is coming when people will lose their jobs  to machines that are more efficient, can work 24/7, don’t need to be paid, nor do they require food or breaks. What will we do as the church when this happens? 

An article published in September on titled “Robots will eliminate 6% of all US jobs by 2021, report says” estimates that by the year 2021 6% of the US workforce could be eliminated due to automation. That is 6% of the entire US Workforce. The article says that this “disruptive tidal wave” will affect areas such as customer service, transportation, and logistics. People who have been working in these industries for many years will lose their jobs and will either need to be retrained or look for work in other Industries. It is staggering to think that 6% of the US Workforce will lose their jobs to automation by 2021.  

Are you prepared to minister to 6% of your local community who just lost their jobs?  Are you prepared to lose 6% of those persons who give to your church financially?  Are you prepared to help these people who have lost their jobs and have limited specialized skills to find new avenues of work?

According to experts that is only the beginning.  What do we do 2030  when 15% to 20% of the workforce has been displaced by automated machines? 

Interestingly the article says, “The challenge posed by automation is not being taken seriously enough at a policy level, Stern added. ‘Politicians would rather talk about getting a college degree and technical skill training, things that are probably five to 10 years too late. We don’t really have a plan and we don’t appreciate how quickly the future is arriving.”

“…we don’t appreciate how quickly the future is arriving.” Is the article about politicians or about the church? In my opinion the church is more like 20 to 25 years behind the curve.  We need to be ready. We need to be thinking, planning, and preparing. We need to be taking action.

As further evidence another article in the Washington Post titled The Brave New World of Robots and Lost Jobs says, “Politicians need to begin thinking boldly, now, about a world in which driverless vehicles replace most truck drivers’ jobs, and where factories are populated by robots, not human beings. The best way to cushion this future is to start planning for how Americans will be able to take care of their families — and find meaningful work — in a world where most traditional jobs have vanished.”

That same article suggests that “The “automation bomb” could destroy 45 percent of the work activities currently performed in the United States, representing about $2 trillion in annual wages, according to a study last year by the consulting firm McKinsey & Co. We’ve seen only the beginning of this change, they warned. Currently, only 5 percent of occupations can be entirely automated, but 60 percent of occupations could soon see machines doing 30 percent or more of the work.” I’m not sure if you read that or not but we are going from 6% of the workforce to 45%.  If 6% was not staggering enough this research suggests almost half or the US workforce will be without work.

I don’t want to belabor the point but we must plan for the future.

Is this something you have ever thought about? Is this something you have prepared for?

I’m not offering any solutions at this point, I may do that later. Right now I would like to suggest two possible outcomes. Now these are only two outcomes that come to mind. There are probably many more. I would love to hear your feedback.

Here’s what I’m thinking at this point:

  1. The church sees people losing their jobs to automation and isn’t prepared for it. This in turn has two outcomes of its own.
    1. There is an abundance of ministry opportunities as families are hurting and looking for ways to provide for their basic needs.
    2. There is a significant reduction in financial giving to the church and ministries have to be cut to the bare bones. This may include the loss of current church buildings and meeting places as well as a significant reduction in staff.
    3. Therefore the church falters in its ability to minister.

It will be interesting to see, if this happens, how the church responds.

Or, and I do not want to try to place spin on this but I do not see this outcome as entirely negative. Here is what I mean. If churches have had to reduce their staffing to the bare minimum then the personal ministry will be reverted back to the individual members of the congregations. This will be a good thing as it will help Christ followers take up the task they were called to do.

As churches have gone through the process of reduced income they will have had to identify the absolute necessities for ministry (Unless one of your church members owns all of the robots). That is a really good thing. That means, well I hope it means, that churches will have gotten in their Bibles and prayed to God to identify what it is that they are supposed to be doing and then put all of their limited resources toward that ministry.

I think the church then begins to look a lot like an Acts 2:42 church, “They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer.”

In no way am I trying to make light of a situation where so many people have lost their jobs and their livelihoods. I am simply saying that one of the possible outcomes is the church gets back to being the church. This would be a good thing in my opinion.

2) The church is prepared for a situation like this and stands out as an embassy of love and hope.

Just think about the opportunity to step in and show love to all of these people who have lost their jobs and were not prepared for it. It will take a lot of planning and preparation but if we start now we can be ready.

Being prepared means we have thought through how to minister to many people who are looking for work. Being prepared means we consider how the church can be a part of reeducating these workers into new areas of work. Being prepared means we have already taken a hard look at our ministries and identified the essential aspects of ministry as opposed to the nonessential.

The list can go on and on. I know that the church in the US has a lot of problems as it is that we are working through. But I see the next 5-10 years of technological advancement potentially as a defining moment for the church. It is a defining moment that we are just not ready for at this point.

Like I said before, I see it potentially as an opportunity to get back to the task of being the church. Winning the lost, making disciples, fellowshipping together, praying, and showing Christ to a lost and dying world.  

What do you think? I would love to hear your thoughts.


Entrepreneur Katie Treptau – Planting Mars [Ep. 007]

“It is not until the point of surrendering and I open my hands to God and say ‘God, I’ve tried please take this over. I am surrendering it to you.”

Welcome to episode 7 of Planting Mars. In this episode I interview Katie Treptau, an entrepreneur/realtor from Minnesota. I came across Katie’s story in an article published in The Bethel Clarion a Publication of Bethel University. The article is called The Business of Hope. It is the same article where I found Trent Anderson’s story from episode 5.

I really wanted to visit with Katie because of the connection she has made between business and mission. In the interview you will hear her passion for her business Olive Branch Boutique and for the mission projects that she supports through her work.

I really enjoyed this interview. Throughout the conversation we hit on subjects from overcoming fear in order to get started on a project, to overcoming her biggest challenge in life, to the bible verse that keeps her motivated each day. I hope you enjoy this interview.

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Selected Links From The Episode:

Connect With Katie:

Instagram: @katie.treptau

Facebook: Olive Branch Boutique

On the Web:

Other Links Mentioned in the Episode:

Youth With A Mission

Feed My Starving Children

Teen Challenge

Unlock Hope (Use discount code SameShirtYesterday to receive a 20% discount on your entire order.)

Books Mentioned:

Start by Jon Acuff

Trust Edge by David Horsager

Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life by Don Whitney

The Giver by Lois Lowry

Redeeming Love by Francine Rivers

The Shack by William P. Young

Show Notes:

7:00 How do you stay organized and on task with such a busy life?

10:00 What was your purpose and goal when starting Olive Branch Boutique?

16:05 At what point did you decide you were going to operate your business with a mission?

22:00 How do you make sure you are always taking action on your dreams?

24:08 Here Katie talks about how her dreams are so small compared to what God has in store.

27:30 What is the biggest challenge you have had to face and overcome?

38:30 What motivates you each day?

43:00 How do you maintain your relationship with the Lord?

46:50 What is one thing that really excites you about your current work?

58:10 What do you do to always make sure your marriage is growing or moving forward?

1:02:30 What are some things that dads should be doing for their daughters?

1:10:30 If you could send a tweet that everyone in the world was guaranteed to read what would it say?

“Don’t believe everything you think.”

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Church Planter Brian Shepard – Planting Mars [Ep. 006]

“Our Story is probably not what you would expect. So maybe this story will be helpful to others.” – Brian Shepard

Welcome to episode 6 of Planting Mars. In this episode I interview church planter Brian Shepard. Brian is from Oklahoma but is currently planting a church in San Francisco, California.  As you listen you will find that Brian’s story is unique in that his approach to ministry in San Francisco has transitioned over time. He will explain that transition to you in this interview.

It was really informative to hear Brian share about the four different approaches that church planters take when planning to plant a church. He explains the four approaches and then explains why they are taking the Amos Priority in their church planting efforts.

I really enjoyed visiting with Brian and I believe you will enjoy all that he has to share. As you listen you will really hear and understand Brian’s heart for ministry, his family and his love for the Lord.

Ultimately the goal of the podcast is that you will hear something that is encouraging to you and help your relationship with the Lord grow deeper and stronger.

I hope you enjoy this interview with Brian Shepard.

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Selected Links From The Episode:

Connect with Brian:

Instagram: @brianshepard

Facebook: Brian Shepard

twitter: Brian Shepard


Other links mentioned in the episode:

Unlock Hope

Use discount code SAMESHIRTYESTERDAY to receive a 20% discount on your entire order.

Other Items Mentioned:

Guitar Pick Punch Kit (I am not sure if this is the exact one that is mentioned but it is something like this)

Books Mentioned:

The Hardy Boys

Show Notes:

5:00 Brian Shares His Bio.

9:30 Where are you at with the church plant?

13:30 Different Kinds of Church Plants:

  1. The Antioch Priority- Strong Sending Based Churches
  2. The Acts 2 Priority – Multiplying Indigenous Missional Communities
  3. The Amos Priority – Engaging the Gospel in Ministries of Justice
  4. The Athens Priority – Starting Churches Among the Least Reached People Groups

24:30 “No one really wants to hear about the Gospel. And I think more importantly they are wanting to see the Gospel lived out.”

27:00 “What non-Christian people do you have that are asking you not to move?”

27:55 What is the key quote or scripture that motivates you each day?

37:30 Brian explains how he is taking in the scripture at this point in his walk.

43:00 Brian share how he guards his time with his family.

55:10 “Don’t pigeon hole yourself into thinking it is the only context of a church and I need to get paid full time at the church.”Here Brian talks about how ministry may lead you to a place that is not traditional church work.

55:40 “Wherever I land I am on mission. No matter where I am.”

“God do you want me to go around the world or do you just want me to go across the street?

1:00:20 What is your favorite book of all time?

1:01:00 What tweet would you send that everyone in the world would read?

Jesus loves you. He really does save. Trust him today. I’m praying for you.


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Kingdom Building Entrepreneur Trent Anderson

“Fail early and fail fast.” – Trent Anderson

In this episode of Planting Mars I interview Kingdom building entrepreneur Trent Anderson.

Trent works for the mission organization Praying Pelican Missions which is the largest provider of short term missions in the world.  In this role Trent coordinates short term mission trips to Central America. He has also founded a business to help support his missional lifestyle. Reach International Outfitters is a business that he created to help offset some of the costs associated with being a full time missionary.

Now Trent wants to teach others how to be a Kingdom building entrepreneur. You can find out more at his personal website

In this interview Trent will share:

  • The vision behind Reach International Outfitters
  • His philosophy to make sure he is always moving forward with his dreams.
  • What it is that motivates him each day.
  • His insights into starting a Kingdom Building Business.
  • How he grew his Instagram account to over 14 thousand followers.
  • And so much more.

Trent is only 23 years old but has some great insight and wisdom that I am sure you will find useful.

I hope you enjoy this interview with Trent Anderson.

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Selected Links From the Episode:

Connect with Trent:

Instagram: @trentanderson16      @reach_international_outfitters


Other Links Mentioned in the episode.

Unlock Hope

Use discount code SameShirtYesterday at checkout for a 20% discount on your purchase.

Freedom Fastlane

The Amazing Seller

Freeletics App


Selfie Tripod

Books Mentioned:

The Four Hour Work Week

Humility: True Greatness

Show Notes:

[5:45] What is a lifestyle engineer?

[8:10] Introduction to Reach International Outfitters

[10:00] The idea behind Reach International Outfitters

[13:00] How do you go about finding manufacturers?

[15:00] What is a major challenge you have faced and how did you overcome it?

[17:00] How do you make sure you are always taking action on your dreams?

[25:00] What is it that motivates you each day?

[27:20] How do you approach you Bible study time?

[29:40] How do you maintain your health?

[31:15] What excites you about your current work?

[34:00] What would you say to someone who wants to do what you are doing?

[36:00] How have you seen God’s provision in your work?

[39:25] What are one or two keys to having a successful Instagram account?

[44:00] What can we learn by thinking big?

[50:00] What is your favorite book of all time?

[51:00] If you could send one tweet that everyone in the world would read what would it say?

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Planting Mars [Ep. 004] – Listen As This 6 yr Old Describes the Biggest Problem The World Faces Today

This is an in between episode. I will have the next full interview up next week. But in the mean time I hope you enjoy this 10 minute interview I did with my 6 year old daughter. It was a lot of fun and she has some interesting and funny responses to some of my questions.

In the end she asks me some questions too. This was a lot of fun and I hope you enjoy this as much as I did.

Have a great day!

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Planting Mars [Ep.003] – Elijah Elkins

“The more things you measure, the more you can feel like you aren’t measuring up.” – Elijah Elkins

In this episode of Planting Mars I interview entrepreneur Elijah Elkins.

Elijah is a Productivity advisor and Entrepreneur. He founded and AVODA and co-founded Spruce. Elijah helps business leaders and companies with their productivity technology.
Elijah has some great insights into life, business, and how he makes sure he is always moving toward his goals each day. He also shares why he believes the Lord has called him to a life of business as mission.
In this interview Elijah will share with you:
  • The way he handles his social media feeds during work days.
  • His goal to read the entire ESV Study Bible in a year. (Including the footnotes)
  • The key scripture that keeps him motivated.
  • The way he sets up his day for success.
  • Some great ideas that help him remain productive.

Along with so much more. I hope you enjoy this interview with Elijah Elkins. It was a lot of fun for me.

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Selected Links for the Episode:

Connect with Elijah Elkins

Twitter                Facebook                LinkedIn      

Other Links Mentioned in the Show.


Third Path




Organic English Tea

Books Mentioned:

The Cure: What If God Isn’t Who You Think He is and Neither Are you?

Knowing God

Knowledge of The Holy

Show Notes:

[4:30] Elijah’s Background Information

[8:40] Is it a challenge for you to live in the moment? “Yes. We have a severe case of modern life.”

[9:30] What are some ways that you live in the moment? Elijah explains a plan for productivity called time blocking.

[10:20] Turn off your social media during the day to remain productive. “If I don’t need it then I don’t want it coming my way.”

[11:00] A more detailed description of time blocking.

[13:00] How do you always make sure you are taking action on your dreams?

[13:48] Elijah explains how he plans to reach his goal of reading the entire ESV Study bible this year (Including the study notes).

[14:40] Are there any other apps that help you reach your goals?

[16:30] AVODA is endeavoring to put many different productivity applications into one view.

[18:55] What is the biggest challenge you have had to overcome?

[21:30] What is a key quote or scripture that motivates you each day? Matthew 24:14

[22:55] “Only Jesus and his gospel will make all things new and remove all of the pain.”

[24:50] Do you have some type of morning routine? “The routine is slightly more fixed than the times.” “Run in the morning to get an early win.”

[27:40] Elijah shares his recipe for his morning cup of tea: Organic English Breakfast Tea with 3 spoonfuls of honey and 2 spoonfuls of cream

[30:30] “The more thing that you measure the more you can feel like you aren’t measuring up.”

[31:30] We discuss goal setting and how we sometimes sabotage our goals.

[32:40] What is really exciting for you and your work right now?

[34:40] Were you scared when you started your first business? What pushed you over that fear?

[41:40] How do you guard your time with your spouse? “Talk to your spouse about what her expectations are for time and activities.”

[44:30] What are some non-negotiables when it comes to your family?

[47:40] What can we learn by thinking about big questions? “Elijah discusses an idea about church planting and business combined in a model to advance the gospel.”

[50:40] Listen as Elijah discusses a vision for the digital nomad.

[53:20] Rapid fire questions.

[55:00] If you could send out one tweet that everyone would read what would it say?

[56:00] What is the best purchase you have made for $50.00 or less in the last 6 months?

[58:00] Where can listeners find you?

Twitter                Facebook                LinkedIn      

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Planting Mars [Ep. 002] – Keith Baldridge

“Tasks often take a back seat to people.” – Keith Baldridge

In this episode of Planting Mars I interview Pastor Keith Baldridge of The Living Stone Church in Broomfield Colorado. Keith has served in various capacities in ministry over the last several years but is now working to launch the Living Stone Church. Their first service will be on August 21, 2016.

I got to know Keith over the past year as we have taken two mission team to serve with The Living Stone in Broomfield. I can tell you he is the real deal. He loves the Lord, loves his family, and loves the church. I think you will really enjoy our conversation.

In this interview Keith will share with us:

  • the miraculous story that brought him and his family to Broomfield to plant a church.
  • his approach to ministry.
  • the vision God has laid on his heart for The Living Stone Church and for the city of Broomfield.
  • what a win looks like for their ministry there. [It may be different than you think]
  • the challenges that he faces in ministry.
  • the way he ministers to his family.

There is so much more to this interview that you will not want to miss. We also get into the issue of health and Keith tells us what his favorite book is that he is reading right now.

Thank you for listening. I would love to hear your comments in the comment section below.

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Selected Links From The Episode:

Connect with Keith Baldridge:

Twitter                 Instagram

Connect with The Living Stone Church:

website                Instagram

Seven Practices of Effective Ministry by Andy Stanley

Hydro Flask Vacuum Insulated Stainless Steel Water Bottle, Wide Mouth w/Flex Cap

Nextdoor: The private social network for your neighborhood.

Show Notes:

[5:38] Keith shares the background about how he wound up in Broomfield Colorado. Keith and His wife felt like they were to plant a church but there was hesitation.

[10:13] God moves through a gift.

[11:48] After looking into planting in several cities the Lord showed them Denver was the place for them.

[12:33] The story comes full circle.

[14:28] What are some ways that Keith stays focused on the present?

[14:58] “Tasks often take a backseat to people.”

[16:38] Keith tells about how he came to the principle of people over tasks.

[17:28] “People Matter above everything else.”

[18:03] What vision has God laid on your heart for the Living Stone Church?

[18:43] “Whatever you measure is what you will focus on.”

[19:08] Keith Describes what a win looks like for the Living Stone Church.

[21:18] What is the biggest challenge you have faced since you have arrived in Broomfield?

[22:26] Keith shares his priority as a pastor.

[24:41] What are some non-negotiables with your family? (You will want to be sure and hear his response)

[26:38] Another non-negotiable for Keith is that he does not hang up his ministry hat when he gets home at night.

[27:16] “Every single day that goes by is one less day that I will have to pour into my girls and pour into my wife.”

[27:58] What is it that motivates you to keep going each day?

[28:22] This one passage: Colossians 1:24-29

[29:56] Paul was focused on pointing people toward Jesus.

[30:58] Keith explains the connection between Mission: Impossible and Colossians 1:24-29

[32:48] “It all boils down to,do you have an eternal perspective?”

[34:58] Here Keith describes what his mornings look like.

[37:58] We discuss issues concerning personal health.

[39:08] Keith talks about why it is important to maintain physical health. (You will want to hear what he shares)

[42:38] Here we discuss what he is really excited about when it comes to The Living Stone Church. In this section he shares a really cool story.

[45:48] “The end goal is to meet needs and to see life transformation.”

[46:48] Listen to how he approached fund raisins for the start of The Living Stone Church.

[49:28] “Everything is relational.”

[50:20] “If you are using people as a means to an end then you will fail.”

[54:53] From this point we talk about some fun questions that I ask.

[1:02:58] Where can listeners find you? The Living Stone Church

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